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	<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:29:36 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Lookups I can do</title>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;I can do lookups in Oxfordshire Uk in the parishes of Brightwell Baldwin and a few other near by parishes, Sussex I have the parish records of Tillington, Midhurst&amp;nbsp;and Petworth and in Buckinghamshire the parish records of Weston Turville.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145933&quot;&gt;Lookups We Can Do&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Thur, 12 Nov 2009 18:37:08 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>John McMullen and wife Margaret Orr Ontario, Quebec, Ireland or Scotland</title>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;My Great Grandfather's parents were John McMullen (spelling could differ) and Margaret Orr.&amp;nbsp; I believe they immigrated from Scotland or Ireland to Canada.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Their names are on my Great Grandfather William John McMullen's (McMillan) birth record which was for Montreal, Quebec, Canada for 1847.&amp;nbsp; I also saw their names as his parents&amp;nbsp;on a transcription of his marriage record.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;I don't know the years of birth for John or Margaret.&amp;nbsp; My Great Gandfather William John McMillan&amp;nbsp;was found in Fergus, Wellington, Ontario, Canada in 1867 for his marriage and 1871 for the census.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;I'm not sure&amp;nbsp;of John's and Margaret's origin.&amp;nbsp; My Great Grandfatehr's Census records vary, some showing&amp;nbsp;John to be from Scotland and&amp;nbsp;Margaret from Ireland, and some show both from Ireland.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;I haven't found William John and his parents together&amp;nbsp;on 1851 or 1861 Canada census records to my satisfaction.&amp;nbsp; It's possible John and/or Margaret could have died at some point.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Seems I've hit a brickwall with this, and would appreciate any possible help.&amp;nbsp; John and/or Margaret may have been in the Fergus area also, but I haven't been able to determine that.&amp;nbsp; It looks like the Wellington County Museum has extensive historical information, but I don't travel, so it would be hard for me to access this info.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;I did find a John McMullen who married a Margaret Orr in Ireland.&amp;nbsp; I've found 2 records for the&amp;nbsp;Down, Downpatrick,&amp;nbsp;Ireland one for 1844 and one for 1845, but I think it would be for the same couple.&amp;nbsp; That record showed her to have been born approx 1823.&amp;nbsp; I don't know if this is them or not?&amp;nbsp; If it were, seems they would have immigrated not long after the marriage?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Thanks for any help!!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tom McMillan&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145882&quot;&gt;Canada&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:29:53 GMT</pubDate>
		<author>TomMcMi</author>
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		<title>James Campbell</title>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;My g.g.grandfather James Campbell b. 1798&amp;nbsp; (Kilmarnock , Ayr??) married Mary Jane Hyndman on May 1 ,1829. The union was registered in both Kilmarnock and Tolbooth Kirk, Edinburgh. They had sons David b. 1833 Dalkeith and James (my g.grandfather) b. July 12, 1838 Edinburgh. By 1842-44 they had all emigrated to Cumberland Co., Nova Scotia, Canada. Looking for any researchers who recognize this line.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145882&quot;&gt;Canada&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:58:30 GMT</pubDate>
		<author>daxman</author>
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		<title>James Campbell</title>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;My g.g.grandfather James Campbell b.1798 (Kilmarnock , Ayr??) married Mary Jane Hyndman on May 1, 1829. The union was registered in both Kilmarnock and Tolbooth Kirk, Edinburgh. They had sons David b.1833 Dalkeith and James ( my g.grandfather) b. July 12, 1838 Edinburgh. By 1842-44 they had all emigrated to Cumberland Co., Nova Scotia, Canada. Looking for any researchers who recognize this line .&lt;/P&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145893&quot;&gt;Scotland &lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:53:01 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>BURR</title>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;I am researching the name of Joesph Burr and wife Lena Burr. I have no dates of birth or death. They are in the mecklenburg Germany area. He had a son John born around 1828 in Schwerin Germany and came to the Untied States in 1856. He married Dorethea Wiljeilm Schefe in 1859. They lived in Town of Clayton Wi in Winnebago county. they had nine children. Henry b 1862 d1884, William born 1875 Otto born 1875 d 1877, John 1867 Alvina 1860 married Theodore Asmus, Lena&amp;nbsp; married Chas Julius, Minnie b 1872 m Louis Julius, Retta b 1880 m H T Witt. Anna b 1864 d 1870 or 1880. They all lived in the Neenah or Grenville Area. Henry was my grand father and he married Anna Lubben. The children were Edward b 1884 d 1961, Anna b 1885 d 12/25/1955, Joesphine b 1892 d 1967&amp;nbsp; rossetta b 1902, d 1931, Wilbert b 1904 d 1960&amp;nbsp; Marie 1904 d1924, Elmer b 1908 d 12/25/1942.&lt;/P&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145894&quot;&gt;United States &lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:18:10 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Looking for Holmden/Murray</title>
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		<description>My g g grandfather was William Jacques Holmden (b. 1801&amp;nbsp;d. 1871 Plymouth England) he married Susan Reed Isbell (alternative spelling Isobel) (b. Jun 22 1809 Kenwyn Street Calvinistic Baptist Truro, Cornwall, England d. Mar 1875 Plymouth England)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lisited in the International Genealogical index in vol 5b on page 207&lt;br&gt;In 1840 they lived at 7 Sutton Place Sub district of Charles the Martyr, County of Devon&lt;BR&gt;In 1852 they lived at 2 Eton Place Plymounth, County of Devon.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was the Official Receiver and Arbitrator to the High Court of Chancery, Western Circuit England.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am trying to find his parents/siblings and her parents/siblings&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;thanks Judie&lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145883&quot;&gt;England &lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:21:14 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Holmden</title>
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		<description>Looking for any information on the Holmden family.&amp;nbsp; Father Hensley Reed Holmden moved his family to Ottawa, Ontario from England in the late 1880s.&amp;nbsp; His wife was Janet Murray.&amp;nbsp; Their children where:&amp;nbsp; Stuart Murray (married Gerturde Moseley in BC) vet of the NWMP, South African war, and WWI, Eric Hensley (married several wives) vet of NWMP, WWI and WWII, Rolf Vet of WWI, Robert, Dorthea or Dorothy I, Katherine or Kate, Lorna, Kenneth Hensley (Canadian Artist) Vet of WWI , George Lawrence (Killed WWI), Marjory, &amp;amp; Joanna.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;thanks Judie&lt;BR&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145882&quot;&gt;Canada&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:11:51 GMT</pubDate>
		<author>Judith04</author>
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		<title>India Office Family HIstory Search</title>
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		<description>here is the link to the India Office Family History Search, a posting I found today. &lt;A href=&quot;http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/Home.aspx&quot; target=_blank target=_blank&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/Home.aspx&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/Home.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR&gt;bcrick&lt;BR&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145897&quot;&gt;Genealogy Web Sites for Looking 4 kin&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Thur, 08 Oct 2009 22:13:36 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>DAVID  COTTER</title>
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		<description>&lt;FONT face=&quot;Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif&quot; size=3&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=3&gt;Any information on David Cotter Born in Midleton Co Cork Ireland in 1877.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=3&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=3&gt;Known to live in Needham, Norfolk, Massachusetts in 1900 Census.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=3&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;FONT face=Tahoma size=3&gt;Any information on descendants, even death&amp;nbsp;or marriage record for David much appreciated.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145894&quot;&gt;United States &lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Thur, 08 Oct 2009 10:34:33 GMT</pubDate>
		<author>Ferndale</author>
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		<title>Looking for Patrick Howland</title>
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		<description>My name is Pamela Piles (nee Howland) and I am looking for my cousin Patrick Howland.&amp;nbsp; Patrick would be about 60 years old.&amp;nbsp; His father is Clifford Howland, his mother was Winifred (maiden name unknown).&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cliff and Winifred's last known address was Tankerton, Kent, UK.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clifford's brother was Alfred Howland, aka Jim.&amp;nbsp; Mother's name was Florence.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I last saw Patrick 50 years ago when we were young teens (in Egbert Road, Faversham, Kent).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope someone can help.&lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145883&quot;&gt;England &lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Thur, 08 Oct 2009 04:35:41 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>Holthusen</title>
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		<description>My grandmother had an uncle Gottfried Holthusen who was a senator in Hamburg, I have been told that at the entrance to the OLD Elbe tunnel there is a head carrved in stone of Gottfreid. I would like to know if this is still there and would like to get a photo or some information on this.&lt;br&gt;I would be grateful for any information on this.&lt;br&gt;Thankyou Chris&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145884&quot;&gt;Europe&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
		<author>perrettc</author>
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		<title>Mystery!!! John Francis CLEGG</title>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;My grandfathers' name was &lt;B&gt;John Francis CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;. According to his Army records he was b. 16th September 1909 - The Army gave me a clue to his place of birth, New Zealand. Now, this is where it gets complicated...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;The ONLY information I've pieced together over the last five years is thus:-&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;He worked in Hereford, England as a 'Draper' during 1935, there he had and registered his first born daughter, &lt;B&gt;Patricia Maureen CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; (MY MOTHER), but he put his name on the birth certificate as &lt;B&gt;John Cameron CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;, the next 3 children were born in Reading, Berkshire, UK., &lt;B&gt;Pamela Mary&lt;/B&gt; in 1937 he was &lt;B&gt;John Francis CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; along with subsquent children (nameless)&lt;B&gt;'Girl' CLEGG &lt;/B&gt;(adopted) in 1938 and &lt;B&gt;Brenda Marlene CLEGG &lt;/B&gt;(adopted) in 1939. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;The outbreak of War saw him in the R.A. His wife &lt;B&gt;Hilda (nee BIRD)&lt;/B&gt; took Pat &amp;amp; Pam to Bristol, England and left them in a Children's Home. They were never claimed by either parent nor did my mother ever see or know what happened to her father. This was 70 years ago. All her life my mother was told her fathers name was &lt;B&gt;Frank CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;, he was Welsh and known as Frank the 'Taffy'. She was shocked to learn his real name was John, that she and her sister Pam had another two sisters she had not known about and that 'Frank' &amp;amp; Hilda weren't actually married until 1940!!! despite Hilda declaring herself as Mrs CLEGG on ALL of the children's birth Certificates. The couple were split by 1941 and never saw each other again. Hilda went on to marry another man in 1950. &lt;B&gt;John 'Frank' CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; disappeared as mysteriously as he appeared in 1935 - He wasn't killed during the war and I can find no birth or death certificate in England/Wales or New Zealand. All I have to go on is old family recollections as clues... how accurate any of it is, is anyone's guess! Here goes &lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;Despite his nickname some say he spoke with an Australian accent, he said his parents had been killed in a bush fire, he was from Wales (I now assume that to be actually N.S.W.) &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;The information on his eventual marriage to &lt;B&gt;Hilda BIRD&lt;/B&gt; in Reading 1940, declares his own father to be a Polo Pony Breeder by the name of &lt;B&gt;John CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;, who was deceased. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;His Army Records are the only evidence of his existence as a person, but they are closed to us. Two years ago they told me that we had to wait 100 years from the serviceman's birth. That anniversary came this past week as I write this. As servicemen are living longer they have raised the bar to 116 years, unless we can produce a death certificate. Which, of course we can't. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;Apart from his alleged date of birth (b. 16&lt;SUP&gt;th&lt;/SUP&gt; September 1909) and a clue to look towards New Zealand we have nothing!!! &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;All avenues of enquiries have proved fruitless. My mother has waited 70 years to find the truth, living under false information and The Army are adamant they will not tell us any more. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;Searching the records of the Dept., of Internal Affairs in New Zealand did not produce a birth certificate and there is no death for ANY of the combination of names in the U.K. Which could be him. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;My Mother always believed his name was &lt;B&gt;Francis Cameron CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; and was shocked to learn otherwise. Had he been two years older, I might have secured his army records, but alas I will have to wait another 16 years, My mother won't have that time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Can you or anyone else help? Do you know of any one else that may have come across him or provide us with information? A Birth Certificate so I can continue tracing her family tree? Does any of the information ring any bells for anyone? Anything!!!&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145908&quot;&gt;Brickwalls&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:40:19 GMT</pubDate>
		<author>Michaela11</author>
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		<title>Mystery!!! John Francis CLEGG</title>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;My grandfathers' name was &lt;B&gt;John Francis CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;. According to his Army records he was b. 16th September 1909 - The Army gave me a clue to his place of birth, New Zealand. Now, this is where it gets complicated...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;The ONLY information I've pieced together over the last five years is thus:-&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;He worked in Hereford, England as a 'Draper' during 1935, there he had and registered his first born daughter, &lt;B&gt;Patricia Maureen CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; (MY MOTHER), but he put his name on the birth certificate as &lt;B&gt;John Cameron CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;, the next 3 children were born in Reading, Berkshire, UK., &lt;B&gt;Pamela Mary&lt;/B&gt; in 1937 he was &lt;B&gt;John Francis CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; along with subsquent children (nameless)&lt;B&gt;'Girl' CLEGG &lt;/B&gt;(adopted) in 1938 and &lt;B&gt;Brenda Marlene CLEGG &lt;/B&gt;(adopted) in 1939. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;The outbreak of War saw him in the R.A. His wife &lt;B&gt;Hilda (nee BIRD)&lt;/B&gt; took Pat &amp;amp; Pam to Bristol, England and left them in a Children's Home. They were never claimed by either parent nor did my mother ever see or know what happened to her father. This was 70 years ago. All her life my mother was told her fathers name was &lt;B&gt;Frank CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;, he was Welsh and known as Frank the 'Taffy'. She was shocked to learn his real name was John, that she and her sister Pam had another two sisters she had not known about and that 'Frank' &amp;amp; Hilda weren't actually married until 1940!!! despite Hilda declaring herself as Mrs CLEGG on ALL of the children's birth Certificates. The couple were split by 1941 and never saw each other again. Hilda went on to marry another man in 1950. &lt;B&gt;John 'Frank' CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; disappeared as mysteriously as he appeared in 1935 - He wasn't killed during the war and I can find no birth or death certificate in England/Wales or New Zealand. All I have to go on is old family recollections as clues... how accurate any of it is, is anyone's guess! Here goes &lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;Despite his nickname some say he spoke with an Australian accent, he said his parents had been killed in a bush fire, he was from Wales (I now assume that to be actually N.S.W.) &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;The information on his eventual marriage to &lt;B&gt;Hilda BIRD&lt;/B&gt; in Reading 1940, declares his own father to be a Polo Pony Breeder by the name of &lt;B&gt;John CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;, who was deceased. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;His Army Records are the only evidence of his existence as a person, but they are closed to us. Two years ago they told me that we had to wait 100 years from the serviceman's birth. That anniversary came this past week as I write this. As servicemen are living longer they have raised the bar to 116 years, unless we can produce a death certificate. Which, of course we can't. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;Apart from his alleged date of birth (b. 16&lt;SUP&gt;th&lt;/SUP&gt; September 1909) and a clue to look towards New Zealand we have nothing!!! &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;All avenues of enquiries have proved fruitless. My mother has waited 70 years to find the truth, living under false information and The Army are adamant they will not tell us any more. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;Searching the records of the Dept., of Internal Affairs in New Zealand did not produce a birth certificate and there is no death for ANY of the combination of names in the U.K. Which could be him. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;My Mother always believed his name was &lt;B&gt;Francis Cameron CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; and was shocked to learn otherwise. Had he been two years older, I might have secured his army records, but alas I will have to wait another 16 years, My mother won't have that time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Can you or anyone else help? Do you know of any one else that may have come across him or provide us with information? A Birth Certificate so I can continue tracing her family tree? Does any of the information ring any bells for anyone? Anything!!!&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145759&quot;&gt;Australian&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:38:46 GMT</pubDate>
		<author>Michaela11</author>
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		<title>Mystery!! John Francis CLEGG</title>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;My grandfathers' name was &lt;B&gt;John Francis CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;. According to his Army records he was b. 16th September 1909 - The Army gave me a clue to his place of birth, New Zealand. Now, this is where it gets complicated...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;The ONLY information I've pieced together over the last five years is thus:-&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;He worked in Hereford, England as a 'Draper' during 1935, there he had and registered his first born daughter, &lt;B&gt;Patricia Maureen CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; (MY MOTHER), but he put his name on the birth certificate as &lt;B&gt;John Cameron CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;, the next 3 children were born in Reading, Berkshire, UK., &lt;B&gt;Pamela Mary&lt;/B&gt; in 1937 he was &lt;B&gt;John Francis CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; along with subsquent children (nameless)&lt;B&gt;'Girl' CLEGG &lt;/B&gt;(adopted) in 1938 and &lt;B&gt;Brenda Marlene CLEGG &lt;/B&gt;(adopted) in 1939. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;The outbreak of War saw him in the R.A. His wife &lt;B&gt;Hilda (nee BIRD)&lt;/B&gt; took Pat &amp;amp; Pam to Bristol, England and left them in a Children's Home. They were never claimed by either parent nor did my mother ever see or know what happened to her father. This was 70 years ago. All her life my mother was told her fathers name was &lt;B&gt;Frank CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;, he was Welsh and known as Frank the 'Taffy'. She was shocked to learn his real name was John, that she and her sister Pam had another two sisters she had not known about and that 'Frank' &amp;amp; Hilda weren't actually married until 1940!!! despite Hilda declaring herself as Mrs CLEGG on ALL of the children's birth Certificates. The couple were split by 1941 and never saw each other again. Hilda went on to marry another man in 1950. &lt;B&gt;John 'Frank' CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; disappeared as mysteriously as he appeared in 1935 - He wasn't killed during the war and I can find no birth or death certificate in England/Wales or New Zealand. All I have to go on is old family recollections as clues... how accurate any of it is, is anyone's guess! Here goes &lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;Despite his nickname some say he spoke with an Australian accent, he said his parents had been killed in a bush fire, he was from Wales (I now assume that to be actually N.S.W.) &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;The information on his eventual marriage to &lt;B&gt;Hilda BIRD&lt;/B&gt; in Reading 1940, declares his own father to be a Polo Pony Breeder by the name of &lt;B&gt;John CLEGG&lt;/B&gt;, who was deceased. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;His Army Records are the only evidence of his existence as a person, but they are closed to us. Two years ago they told me that we had to wait 100 years from the serviceman's birth. That anniversary came this past week as I write this. As servicemen are living longer they have raised the bar to 116 years, unless we can produce a death certificate. Which, of course we can't. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;Apart from his alleged date of birth (b. 16&lt;SUP&gt;th&lt;/SUP&gt; September 1909) and a clue to look towards New Zealand we have nothing!!! &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;All avenues of enquiries have proved fruitless. My mother has waited 70 years to find the truth, living under false information and The Army are adamant they will not tell us any more. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;Searching the records of the Dept., of Internal Affairs in New Zealand did not produce a birth certificate and there is no death for ANY of the combination of names in the U.K. Which could be him. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;My Mother always believed his name was &lt;B&gt;Francis Cameron CLEGG&lt;/B&gt; and was shocked to learn otherwise. Had he been two years older, I might have secured his army records, but alas I will have to wait another 16 years, My mother won't have that time.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style=&quot;MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm&quot;&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Can you or anyone else help? Do you know of any one else that may have come across him or provide us with information? A Birth Certificate so I can continue tracing her family tree? Does any of the information ring any bells for anyone? Anything!!!&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145892&quot;&gt;New Zealand &lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:35:06 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description>ARMSTRONG MUIR PERRY DYER PRINCE&lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Forum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://looking4kin.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=145907&quot;&gt;Looking 4 Kin Chatters Surnames&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:34:25 GMT</pubDate>
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